Season 2: Episode 37 – Interview with Bryan Goodwin – McREL [Podcast]

goodwinIn this episode, we are talking with Bryan Goodwin. Bryan is President & CEO at McREL International, a Denver-based nonprofit education research and development organization that serves educators across the US, the Pacific, and Australia. The mission of McREL is to make a difference in the quality of education and learning for all through excellence in applied research, product development and service.

A former teacher and award-winning journalist, Bryan has published four books, including Balanced Leadership for Powerful Learning, The 12 Touchstones of Good Teaching: A Checklist for Staying Focused Everyday, Simply Better: Doing What Matters Most to Change the Odds for Student Success and The Future of Schooling: Educating America in 2020. He has a Bachelor’s degree from Baylor University and a Master’s from the University of Virginia. When not writing or speaking to audiences, he enjoys spending time with his wife and three daughters in the Colorado high country on skis, foot, or by a warm fire.

Here is what we talked about:

  1. Let’s start with The Future of Schooling… and work into the whitepaper. To give the audience some context for the work, what was the beautiful question – what author Warren Berger defines as ambitious and actionable – behind the research in The Future of Schooling?
  2. Since publication in 2011, have you seen the conversation and work in the field move closer toward any of the four scenarios you and your co-authors developed? How have rapid changes in the economy, technology and globalization impacted the critical uncertainties you use to define each scenario: outcomes of education and direction of reform?
  3. Is thinking beyond the day-to-day responsibilities still one of education’s “blind spots”? How do we change that? What can leaders do to better track trends and plan more thoughtfully for the future?
  4. Are there any new future trends that you are seeing since the publication of the book?
  5. In The Road Less Traveled, you suggest the need for a fundamental shift in how we think about schooling and learning – rooted in inquiry and curiosity. Talk to us about this shift from an outside-in approach to one that is inside-out.
  6. Can you share some examples of where the inside-out approach is being applied and has made a difference?
  7. Near the end of the paper you write, “We loathe the constraints of our current reform paradigm, yet underestimate our power to walk away from it, experiencing the freedom of a new, more engaging system of schooling.” How can leaders take the first step?
  8. What beautiful questions are you thinking about now? What’s next in your work? What’s inspiring you?

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Each episode we leave you with a couple of questions to think about…with the idea of provoking conversation. This episode’s questions:

  1. Do you currently work within an inside-out or outside-in paradigm? What steps might you take to shift your mindset and release more curiosity in your teachers and students?
  2. How can an inside-out paradigm coupled with scenario thinking improve your practice with students and teachers?

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