Season 2: Episode 8 – The Surprising Path to Greater Creativity – Interview with Dr. Keith Sawyer [Podcast]

zigzagIn this episode, we welcome Keith Sawyer, one of the country’s leading scientific experts on creativity. Dr.  Sawyer is the Morgan Distinguished Professor in Educational Innovations at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill. His 2007 book Group Genius shows how we can be more creative in collaborative group settings, how to change our organizations for the better, and how to tap into our own reserves of creativity. His 2013 book Zig Zag identifies the 8 stages of the creative process, and contains over 100 techniques to enhance your personal creativity. We created an earlier podcast on this topic and now get to hear from the expert himself!

Here is what we talked about:

  1. What is the big question behind Zig Zag?
  2. What are the eight steps/practices and how do you understand them to be non-linear?
  3. What are some techniques from the book that will help make creativity a habit of mind?
  4. How can student mastery of these practices prepare them for a world with complex and challenging problems to be solved?
  5. How can access to technology amplify the steps?
  6. Tell us about the new ZIG ZAG Creativity Cards available at  How can we use the cards?
  7. What “beautiful questions” are you currently thinking about?

Join the Conversation

  1. Which steps in the creative process are most evident in your work?
  2. How can we develop a culture in our schools which supports the creative process?

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Keiths’s Interview on LDRLB (LeaderLab)

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